Treasury Withdrawals (4b10e579#0)

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Rationale highlights

Why some of the largest DReps voted for and against, in their own words.

  • Yes584.2M ₳

    Summary Yoroi DRep votes YES on Cardano DeFi Liquidity Budget – Withdrawal 1, as the initial withdrawal under the approved Stablecoin DeFi Liquidity Budget. Rationale • Proportionate withdrawal This action withdraws 500,000 ADA as an initial tranche,...

    Summary

    Yoroi DRep votes YES on Cardano DeFi Liquidity Budget – Withdrawal 1, as the initial withdrawal under the approved Stablecoin DeFi Liquidity Budget.

    Rationale

    • Proportionate withdrawal
    This action withdraws 500,000 ADA as an initial tranche, representing a controlled and incremental use of the treasury focused on setup rather than liquidity deployment.

    • Defined use of funds with security safeguards
    The requested amount is allocated to specific preparatory work, including legal structuring, administrative smart contract development, and a 75,000 ADA independent audit, reducing operational and security risk before scaling.

    • Strong on-chain controls and oversight
    All funds are managed through an Amaru smart contract with a 5 of 9 multisignature approval requirement, milestone-based disbursements, and continued dRep and tDAO oversight.

    Conclusion
    Yoroi supports this withdrawal as a measured implementation step that remains consistent with the scope and intent of the Stablecoin DeFi Liquidity Budget previously approved by Yoroi, and therefore votes Yes.

  • Yes435.8M ₳

    I will vote YES on “Cardano DeFi Liquidity Budget – Withdrawal 1”. The reasoning is consistent with my position on the previous information action. While this proposal will not resolve all existing issues, it has the potential to reasonably mitigate some of...

    I will vote YES on “Cardano DeFi Liquidity Budget – Withdrawal 1”.
    The reasoning is consistent with my position on the previous information action. While this proposal will not resolve all existing issues, it has the potential to reasonably mitigate some of the current challenges facing the ecosystem. At present, I am not aware of any critical or fatal downsides associated with this proposal.

    「Cardano DeFi Liquidity Budget - Withdrawal 1」にYESを投票します。

    理由は以前のinfo actionと同様で、これが全ての問題を解決するわけではありませんが、少なくとも現状の問題を合理的に軽減できる可能性があります。また、致命的なデメリットを認識していません。

  • As a DRep, I decided to vote NO on the proposal: Cardano DeFi Liquidity Budget - Withdrawal 1 Rationale for Rejection I want to state clearly at the outset that I support the objective of this proposal. Cardano needs deeper and more reliable stablecoin...

    As a DRep, I decided to vote NO on the proposal: Cardano DeFi Liquidity Budget - Withdrawal 1

    Rationale for Rejection

    I want to state clearly at the outset that I support the objective of this proposal. Cardano needs deeper and more reliable stablecoin liquidity, and I appreciate the work the team has put into advancing this discussion.

    My decision to reject this withdrawal is not opposition to the goal, but a concern about the chosen architecture, sequencing, and cost structure.

    The core issue for me is that this proposal asks DReps to approve a substantial amount of ADA for establishing an off-chain legal entity to deploy liquidity in DeFi.

    Paying approximately 400k ADA to establish and operate a legal entity, including professional directors and ongoing compliance, represents a clear shift away from decentralized, trust-minimized design towards CeFi-style execution. If we are building DeFi, I believe we should first exhaust on-chain solutions and invest Treasury funds into code, protocols, and governance mechanisms rather than importing legacy legal layers as a starting point.

    I fully understand that legal entities are required when interacting with OTC desks, fiat rails, or direct stablecoin issuer minting. However, it has not been convincingly demonstrated that this institutional path is cheaper or more efficient than a trust-minimized, on-chain approach once all costs are considered.

    When the fixed legal overhead of roughly 400k ADA is added to OTC spreads, operational friction, and ongoing compliance, the institutional route may in fact be more expensive than a well-designed on-chain strategy at the scale currently being discussed. At approximately $32M of deployment, phased DEX and bridge-based execution can plausibly achieve comparable or lower total cost without introducing permanent administrative overhead.

    I am also concerned that we are creating a new legal entity despite already having founding entities that are legal persons. The Cardano Foundation, for example, has publicly indicated plans to use Genesis ADA to mint stablecoins. This raises the question of whether all existing options have been explored and whether these entities have explicitly declined participation. My impression is that they do not wish to bear the legal and operational risk for this program, which is understandable, but that alone does not automatically justify establishing a new, Treasury-funded legal structure without further exploration or explanation.

    I also believe that all major entities within the Cardano ecosystem share a vested economic interest in preserving ADA in the Treasury and using those funds as efficiently as possible. For that reason, I would expect openness to cooperation and reuse of existing structures wherever feasible. If the ecosystem ultimately decides that a new legal entity must be established, it should be designed as a reusable, shared resource for future initiatives rather than a single-purpose structure created solely for this proposal.

    Another important point is that the proposal does not specify whether the legal entity is intended to exist only for a single year or to operate on an ongoing basis. While only year-1 costs are budgeted, there is no stated sunset clause, dissolution condition, or estimate of operating expenses for years 2 and beyond. In practice, this means approving not only a one-time expense, but the creation of a recurring cost center with no defined end. This lack of clarity makes it difficult to assess the true long-term commitment being made on behalf of the Treasury.

    I am also uncomfortable with the way this withdrawal is positioned as the first in a sequence of withdrawals. When I approved the Info Action, I highlighted several shortcomings, as did many other DReps. I expect the team to address them. Before approving this withdrawal, I would like to see a second withdrawal with attachments that would be considered final and binding.

    I have read the attachments to the first withdrawal, but I am not sure of their status. I give the team credit for addressing some of my concerns.

    Under the current governance process, meaningful changes or clarifications can realistically only be acted upon in subsequent proposals/withdrawals. Approving this first withdrawal without visibility into the full set of planned withdrawals effectively pressures voters to approve later ones to avoid stranding sunk costs. Rejecting a later withdrawal after approving the legal entity would likely result in a loss of Treasury funds.

    This is a systemic governance issue rather than a fault of the team, but it makes it impossible for me to responsibly approve this withdrawal in isolation. I would strongly prefer to see all planned withdrawals submitted with sufficient detail so the entire project can be evaluated coherently.

    Finally, I want to emphasize that I remain supportive of this project and of the broader goal of improving Cardano's liquidity. However, I am not comfortable approving a large upfront expenditure for legal structuring before attempting a trust-minimized, on-chain-first approach.

    My understanding is that the legal entity primarily exists to shield the committee from liability and to enable off-chain execution. If decisions were made directly by DReps and execution were limited strictly to on-chain transactions, neither a legal entity nor a committee would be strictly necessary. There are viable paths to bootstrap USDM or USDA liquidity using DeFi-native mechanisms such as DEXs, bridges, and phased deployment without exposing individuals to off-chain liability.

    For these reasons, I am rejecting this proposal at this time. I encourage the team to explore an on-chain-first design, clarify the lifetime and cost of any legal entity, and present the full set of withdrawals together.

    I remain open to supporting a revised approach that better aligns with decentralized principles while still addressing Cardano's liquidity needs.

    I will continue to carefully review the rationales and arguments presented by other dReps and follow the ongoing discussion across community channels and social media.

    Governance decisions of this magnitude benefit from broad scrutiny and diverse perspectives, and I remain open to refining my position should new information, clarifications, or materially different approaches emerge through that process.

  • No84.3M ₳

    I voted "NO" on the related Info Action and I am voting "NO" on this withdrawal. Please see my X post related to the info action https://x.com/ArmyofSpies/status/1977565495302996409 . I do not believe the DReps should be abdicating the power of the purse....

    I voted "NO" on the related Info Action and I am voting "NO" on this withdrawal. Please see my X post related to the info action https://x.com/ArmyofSpies/status/1977565495302996409. I do not believe the DReps should be abdicating the power of the purse. Since we already have a "pentad" of founding entities in the greater Cardano Ecosystem, I also question the wisdom of creating yet another foundation entity (this time a "Cayman Islands Foundation Company" that will feature at least "2 Cayman-based professional directors who manage the FC's business and affairs"). We do not need to increase the entity count to a "Hextad". We have enough centralized entity drama as it is given that a decentralized ecosystem should really be...well...decentralized. I also do not believe this is currently the best use of treasury funds when the Cardano Treasury is already trending toward zero within a decade and there are significant questions around yet another centralized foundation entity picking winners and losers when "[c]rypto is filled with failed liquidity incentives" as Sebastian Guillemot succinctly put it in his abstention rationale as to the Info Action. The free markets always do a better job of identifying the best cases of product-market fit than centralized decision-by-committee. Adam Smith taught us this lesson 250 years ago in his 1776 work "The Wealth of Nations".

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